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		<title>By: Mikey Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.nicktemple.com/2008/173/trashmailnet-is-a-scam.html/comment-page-1#comment-85976</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world do you expect people to trust YOU? Why do you take it personally when people who don&#039;t know you, would rather not give you their real e-mail address? You&#039;re way off base on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world do you expect people to trust YOU? Why do you take it personally when people who don&#8217;t know you, would rather not give you their real e-mail address? You&#8217;re way off base on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.nicktemple.com/2008/173/trashmailnet-is-a-scam.html/comment-page-1#comment-82038</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may be responses to each point, everyone is entitled to handling their lives as they wish. I got ticked because I had one user who used the system, didn&#039;t realize what it was doing, and caused hours of support trying to figure out what the hell was going on ... the fact that all my outgoing stuff was getting munged didn&#039;t help any.

I just appreciate it if the people I do business with respect me enough to use real contact info.  Others may have a different view ... and they can shop someplace else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be responses to each point, everyone is entitled to handling their lives as they wish. I got ticked because I had one user who used the system, didn&#8217;t realize what it was doing, and caused hours of support trying to figure out what the hell was going on &#8230; the fact that all my outgoing stuff was getting munged didn&#8217;t help any.</p>
<p>I just appreciate it if the people I do business with respect me enough to use real contact info.  Others may have a different view &#8230; and they can shop someplace else.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an explanation for every point you write in your blog and in this comments. Really, check out the forum on trashmail.net: https://ssl.trashmail.net/forum/

The community is really open to any kind of suggestion or questions.
Archivum.info runs on the same server as trashmail.net. Its explains why you see this in the header.
Trashmail does not save your email content.
There is also no plan to make a web archive of your emails. This would be strictly forbidden in Germany. The dataprotection laws are very strict in Germany (much more than in US).
If you really are scarred about this, use GnuPG anyway. Don&#039;t forget that Gmail archives your mails forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an explanation for every point you write in your blog and in this comments. Really, check out the forum on trashmail.net: <a href="https://ssl.trashmail.net/forum/" rel="nofollow">https://ssl.trashmail.net/forum/</a></p>
<p>The community is really open to any kind of suggestion or questions.<br />
Archivum.info runs on the same server as trashmail.net. Its explains why you see this in the header.<br />
Trashmail does not save your email content.<br />
There is also no plan to make a web archive of your emails. This would be strictly forbidden in Germany. The dataprotection laws are very strict in Germany (much more than in US).<br />
If you really are scarred about this, use GnuPG anyway. Don&#8217;t forget that Gmail archives your mails forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.nicktemple.com/2008/173/trashmailnet-is-a-scam.html/comment-page-1#comment-81922</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supplemental: Note that what really pissed me off was that trashmail caused the &quot;archiving&quot; problem by _rewriting_ the headers of my outgoing emails (changing my &quot;From&quot; address to some unique_id@trashmail) before forwarding them.  If that&#039;s not illegal (in the U.S., I think header foragery actually believe is illegal) it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supplemental: Note that what really pissed me off was that trashmail caused the &#8220;archiving&#8221; problem by _rewriting_ the headers of my outgoing emails (changing my &#8220;From&#8221; address to some unique_id@trashmail) before forwarding them.  If that&#8217;s not illegal (in the U.S., I think header foragery actually believe is illegal) it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.nicktemple.com/2008/173/trashmailnet-is-a-scam.html/comment-page-1#comment-81921</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - my experience is a little different. I had someone contact me with a return address of trashmail, and all (personal) correspondance ended up going through the trashmail servers - not even the customer was aware this was happening until I pointed it out to them.

Emailing their support department for &quot;opt out&quot; resulted in a bounced message.

And ... I&#039;m not worried about &quot;illegal&quot; activities, I&#039;m more worried about &quot;legal but over-the-top&quot; activities - especially with no privacy policy to speak of.

*I* did not sign up for their service, so my mail should not be archived by them.

If it works for you, that&#039;s great ... just please don&#039;t sign up to my sites with their address, as it will be blocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; my experience is a little different. I had someone contact me with a return address of trashmail, and all (personal) correspondance ended up going through the trashmail servers &#8211; not even the customer was aware this was happening until I pointed it out to them.</p>
<p>Emailing their support department for &#8220;opt out&#8221; resulted in a bounced message.</p>
<p>And &#8230; I&#8217;m not worried about &#8220;illegal&#8221; activities, I&#8217;m more worried about &#8220;legal but over-the-top&#8221; activities &#8211; especially with no privacy policy to speak of.</p>
<p>*I* did not sign up for their service, so my mail should not be archived by them.</p>
<p>If it works for you, that&#8217;s great &#8230; just please don&#8217;t sign up to my sites with their address, as it will be blocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Only serious sites give out their real company name and addresses. TrashMail is the only one which is serious. You have all kind of legal information on their website. They could also be pursued in Germany if they do illegal activities.
2. You say: &quot;And that’s a lesson: DON’T ever trust your mail to a company that you can’t verify. Period.&quot; So you trust Hotmail, Google, Yahoo and Co. ?
3. You say: &quot;This is being run by German company, so in theory a U.S. citizen (or any non-German citizen) would have absolutely no recourse if they do come back up and start displaying the mail.&quot; This is not correct. Germany is a full democractic country where international laws applies. Dataprotection is much more strict in Germany than in USA.
I do not see any kind of problem with TrashMail.net. It works well for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Only serious sites give out their real company name and addresses. TrashMail is the only one which is serious. You have all kind of legal information on their website. They could also be pursued in Germany if they do illegal activities.<br />
2. You say: &#8220;And that’s a lesson: DON’T ever trust your mail to a company that you can’t verify. Period.&#8221; So you trust Hotmail, Google, Yahoo and Co. ?<br />
3. You say: &#8220;This is being run by German company, so in theory a U.S. citizen (or any non-German citizen) would have absolutely no recourse if they do come back up and start displaying the mail.&#8221; This is not correct. Germany is a full democractic country where international laws applies. Dataprotection is much more strict in Germany than in USA.<br />
I do not see any kind of problem with TrashMail.net. It works well for years.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rev Nick Temple</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rev Nick Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, that sounds more than dangerous, rather like the anonymous comments I somtimes receive on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, that sounds more than dangerous, rather like the anonymous comments I somtimes receive on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Wilcox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned &quot;There are millions of ways to accomplish the same thing, without compromising your messages.&quot; What are some of the &quot;ways&quot; you had in mind? How about 10minutemail.com or others of that ilk. I have, up to this time, use my regular email address but with spam being what it is I have been looking at options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned &#8220;There are millions of ways to accomplish the same thing, without compromising your messages.&#8221; What are some of the &#8220;ways&#8221; you had in mind? How about 10minutemail.com or others of that ilk. I have, up to this time, use my regular email address but with spam being what it is I have been looking at options.</p>
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